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Comments on: Online quizzes for lit classes http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/ "A man needn't go far to find a subject, if he's ready with his salt-box."--Uncle Pumblechook Wed, 14 May 2014 19:32:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.1 By: Rohan Maitzen http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-26902 Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:10:16 +0000 http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/#comment-26902 I now give “open notes” quizzes in class. I want to encourage students to be mentally engaged enough to be writing things down, and I want them to be checking whether they are doing a good job at this–good enough to study from for the final, which matters to them, and good enough to have a record of what we thought about together, which matters to me. I tell them, too, that though they do not have to agree with the interpretations I offer, they should know what they were, if only to challenge me on them as they read further along, but also because I try hard to model for them the process of literary interpretation. Overall, I think the open-note quizzes have been a good strategy (they are free to use their notes on the readings, too).

By: jbj http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-26861 Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:33:04 +0000 http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/#comment-26861 @Paul Thus far, no real complaints. The quizzes are open book, so I don’t think people are too worried about cheating as such.

Students who do well on the quizzes also do well on the exams and other activities, for whatever that’s worth. (Not doing well on the quizzes doesn’t doom people, though.)

As far as I can tell, there are no quiz banks for lit books. Some of the composition-orientated books have ’em, though, I think.

By: Paul http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-26859 Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:15:48 +0000 http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/#comment-26859 At a school infatuated with its honor code, I’ve always worried about online quizzes for the variety of cheating scenarios that they, if not enable, cannot prevent. Maybe this is a problem in theory but not in practice, or not really a problem at all. I’m interested that it does count towards students’ grades; most online quiz users here use them as practice tests. Do students for their part ever make noise about the grading, or the opportunities for “cheaters” (deserving of quotes thanks to Shirley Valentine)? If not, what do they say about it, if anything? I’d be interested to hear. Thanks!

P.S. I completely agree about open-source collaborative quiz banking. I wonder if any textbook company has included a CMS-compatible quiz bank with its books.

By: jbj http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-26826 Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:09:30 +0000 http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/#comment-26826 @Amanda Not every quiz question is as google-able as this one, to be sure. And, as a whole, quizzes are only worth 10% of the overall grade, so any individual question is worth a very small amount.

@jww I sometimes recoup the questions for the final; the students can also review them online at any time, though I’d be surprised if any did. (Having said that, my students write their own exam questions, which they build out of collective notes they keep.)

On a different note: Your “about” page is one of the greatest I have ever read.

By: Amanda French http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-26790 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:46:47 +0000 http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/#comment-26790 That’s an excellent point, that one needn’t care whether they google it or not. I remember an exchange from the excellent film Shirley Valentine: “What was the most important invention in human history?” “It was the wheel, miss!” “Someone must have told you that!!” “Well, how else would I bleedin’ learn it?!”

I guess in that case, though, I wouldn’t count it toward the final grade, or certainly not much.

By: jww http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-26788 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:29:15 +0000 http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/#comment-26788 When teaching lit, I always give quizzes for the same reasons you mention above. When I have gone without the quizzes there are a lot more long silences where the forty students who skipped the reading hope I don’t call on them, and the five who did the reading are tired of talking. Quizzes increases the number of readers dramatically. Or so it seems.

But I haven’t done online quizzes mostly because it’s harder to write multiple choice questions. My paper quizzes are (supposed to be) easy to take and they’re a piece o’ cake to grade. In fact, I usually pull out the stack and grade them on the bus; I’m done by the time I get home. If only I had an iPhone, then I could post the grades en route, too. Sigh: someday.

I even use my quizzes as fodder for my midterm and final exams. The students know that 25% of the final will come from the quizzes and so they keep them and use them as study guides, and my grading for that part of the exam is easy, too. Unfortunately, the remaining parts of my exams are all essays.

By: jbj http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-26787 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:19:55 +0000 http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/#comment-26787 Thanks, Amanda! D’oh. Fixed now.

I like online quizzes better than the ones in class because I don’t have to keep up with the paperwork, and the students get feedback instantly. Makes me very happy.

As far as googling the answer–it turns out that, for this purpose, I don’t care! After all, they’re taking the quizzes at home, so they are presumably taking the quiz with the book open in front of them. Even if they google it, it still means the right answer drifts across their consciousness for a second. The next morning, when the topic comes up in class, people can at least nod knowingly.

By: Amanda French http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/comment-page-1/#comment-26786 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:10:38 +0000 http://www.jbj.wordherders.net/2009/03/10/online-quizzes-for-lit-classes/#comment-26786 You write, “People who’ve read their Keats letters recently will recognize the answer as #3,” but I think you mean, “People who’ve read their Keats letters recently will recognize the answer as #4.” 🙂

When I was teaching undergrads, I was a fan of reading quizzes, though I did notice how difficult it was to pick a question that everyone could answer even *when* they had done the reading. I never gave online quizzes, though — always just had ’em scribble down the answers to 5 questions at the start of class & pass ’em up. Very easy to grade.

I’m curious: How you prevent the students from googling the answer to a question like that?